Re: God as Hypothesis?
Re: God as Hypothesis?
One significant problem is that followers of Jesus implicitly set modern scientific practice (testing words/concepts against empirical evidence) as the standard the Bible and its Words must pass before its validity is affirmed. Let me say this differently: testing the Word against empirics is akin to making God into a hypothesis. The result is that God and the Christian faith are framed as either “true” or “false” propositions that are ultimately affirmed or denied on the basis of empirical evidence.
I'm not so certain that the question of the Bible's truthfulness (or, if rephrase, it's historical reality) isn't important, even to people today. There are people who will simply not believe in Christ or what Christians say, no matter how they act, simply because they belief that the Bible is untrue.
As far as making the Bible only into some kind of a book of ethics with stories in it which may be true or fiction, doesn't that simply make it another 'wisdom book'?
Also, isn't it a bit, I don't know, prideful to say that if something doesn't seem to work for the 'postmodern mind', then it's useless? From what I understand of the conversions of Chesterton and C.S. Lewis, it wasn't until they saw that Christianity made sense that they came to believe. Are there really no people today who are of that same mind?
Don’t point to a piece of empirical evidence and say: “look here, my faith in God is proven.” Rather, demonstrate to me the validity and trustworthiness of your faith by showing me the fruit that it bears. Show me truth, love and justice in your everyday life.
I don't want to say anything against the idea of living out one's faith, certainly that is important. But I don't think we can rightly make Christianity a matter of actions only, either. We are not saved by works, but by faith, and if the object of that faith is unreliable, then how certain is our salvation?
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- jazzact13,
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