Re: Jesus, "Hell," and Destructive Relationships
Re: Jesus, "Hell," and Destructive Relationships
I didn’t claim the translation was “right.” I said that “hell” is what many Bible believers use today and it is also what the NIV renders—those are the empirical facts of the matter that I’m working with.
So you are trying to reinterpret what Jesus is saying through the lens of your reevaluation of the modern definition of hell?
And your textual evidence to support that is…
Geenna is the name of a physical place (on Earth).
Again, my concern is with the words of Jesus in the Gospels.
You mean, the words of Jesus in the Gospels from a 21st century perspective?
Show me some textual evidence that supports your interpretation of Jesus’ use of “hell.” Thus far, you have told me that you “disagree” with my interpretation, which is fine, but you’ve shown me little evidence to support your “opinion.”
Geenna is derived from the Hebrew ge and Hinnom. The Greek word refers to the “valley of Hinnom.” What more evidence do you want?
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