Re: Jesus, "Hell," and Destructive Relationships
Re: Jesus, "Hell," and Destructive Relationships
To me, isolation and estrangement from the love of God and neighbor seems pretty “unpleasant.”
From your perspective. But what about the perspective of the person in that situation? Many people reject God and are happy for doing so.
I think that we should get past the supernatural/natural dichotomy that structures and limits our thinking. I think we would benefit from keeping life on the level of relationships. We relate to self, neighbor and God. None of these bonds are “supernatural,” I would submit.
Maye you are right and that is a good idea.
Yet nowhere does Jesus talk about “hell” as “judgement.” Granted, to sit in “judgement” is to relate to someone in a particular way. But nowhere does Jesus suggest that “hell” is “judgement.” Does he?
He compares hell with judgment (Mat 5:22). Hell is a place (or whatever you want to call it) God himself casts the wicked (Mat 5:29; 10:28; 18:9; Luk 12:5). In fact, Jesus calls hell judgment: “Serpents! broods of vipers! how should ye flee from the judgment of gehenna?” (Mat 23:33).
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